Translation of Pepper & Carrot into Ido

Raye Chell Mahela

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A few days ago, Giles-Philippe Morin reached out to me to let me know that he and William Johnsson has translated the libre/open-source comic, Pepper & Carrot, to Ido.

(It is also available in Lojban and Esperanto)

It is viewable here:
http://www.peppercarrot.com/io/article234/potion-of-flight

Actually this seems like a pretty cool idea! Like a Wiki page, but for comics. I would definitely like to see more of this sort of thing.

SEXUO E GENRO EN IDO: HISTORIALA PERSPEKTIVO E MODERNA TENDENCI

Raye Chell Mahela

This article was sent to me by Idist Brian Drake who reached out to me about their work in the language, and also pointed out this article to me, from La blua plumo:

SEXUO E GENRO EN IDO: HISTORIALA PERSPEKTIVO E MODERNA TENDENCI 

It not only has a non-gender-specific way of talking about people […], but we’re even working on a trans-appropriate affix and pronoun. I think that’s pretty great.

I’m not a very quick Ido reader, but if somebody would like to provide an English-language summary for me, I will add it to this blog post for more people to learn about! :)

Thanks!

RPG Maker and Conlangs

Raye Chell Mahela

Sometimes, I’ll open up RPG Maker (one of the many iterations of ’em) and make myself an RPG, in some random conlang. Because let’s face it, there are pretty much no games in most conlangs.

These are mostly nonsensical, but maybe here to inspire someone reading to go pick up RPG Maker, or another game making tool – Game Maker, RenPy, or heck, even C++, and make some games. (Preferably with translations. 😉

These also may contain poor grammar, since I made ’em while learning. Plz forgive. :B


 

Esperanto

RPG Maker VX (PC) game – Trezoro de la Drako (2014)

RPG Maker 2 (PS2) game – La Hundo Perdita (2014)


 

Ido

RPG Maker VX (PC) game – La Drako de la Turmo (2014)


 

Láadan

RPG Maker 2003 (PC) game – Óowamid (2015)


 

Why learn Ido? – Sanzo84

Raye Chell Mahela

A late reply (by 4 months), so apologies in advance. I’m a native Indonesian speaker, but I learned English since I was around 3 and currently teaching English as a Second Language to teenagers and adults. I’m also proficient in French (B2 level) having lived in France for 6 years. When I visited my parents for the summer in Romania for around 4-5 months, I picked up the language quickly because it was also a Romance language. I was able to get around in broken Romanian after 2-3 months. I also picked up bits and pieces of other languages just for kicks: Japanese, German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, even Irish Gaelic. None of which I studied seriously (that is, I never took formal language courses in these languages).

I’m learning Ido because I wanted to learn an International Auxiliary Language (IAL) out of curiosity. Like many others, I looked at Esperanto first but was turned off by the diacritics in the language. I learned them in French and Romanian, but sought a more simpler IAL. I was interested in Ido when I learned that it was based on early reforms in Esperanto. I took a look at Ido and was immediately hooked. I’ve been studying for less than a week, but I’m reading free PDFs of Progreso and Kuriero Internaciona as well as other books in Ido with little difficulty. It may be because of my grasp in two Romance languages, but I was thrilled to find out I could understand around 40% of text in Ido already!

I’m hoping to seriously learn this simple yet beautiful IAL and help spread the word here in Indonesia. I even started to text “Me amoras tu” to my girlfriend, hoping to convince her to study along with me.

— Sanzo84

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The Good Fairy: An Esperanto Fairy Tale of Respectability Politics

In the Summer of 2015 I had the opportunity to read “La bona feino” (The Good Fairy), a fairy tale written in Esperanto by a white, heterosexual European male librarian named Louis Beaucaire. Although Beaucaire wrote a number of these Fairy Tales of the Green Magpie, he was best known for Kruko kaj Baniko el Bervalo (Kruko and Baniko from Bervalo), a set of “indecent anecdotes” about a couple of womanizing, brothel-frequenting, married straight men living in a fictional land called Bervalo.

But let’s forget Kruko and Baniko and move onto “The Good Fairy.” Paraphrased, it goes like this: a fairy learns about Esperanto and wants to learn it due to its pretensions of being able to bring about world peace. When she begins to actually study the matter, she finds out that inside the language’s foundational text, the Fundamento de Esperanto, there is a story about an evil fairy, and she does not like it. She thinks it is insulting to fairies. So she writes to L. L. Zamenhof, who assures her that he had no intention of offending fairies, and would be happy to remove it, only he cannot because it is already part of the language’s foundational text. Reassured, the Good Fairy goes on to become a completely self-sacrificing, party-line-toeing Esperantist, including at one point using her magic to oppose the Ido movement. She never again questions the language, Zamenhof or the Fundamento.

This story is a frequently anthologized part of Esperanto literature, and it demonstrates the inherent respectability politics of the language. If you want to be a “good fairy,” you must not only accept being marginalized within the foundational text of Esperanto, but you must oppose the “bad fairies” who do not accept it. If the Ido movement, for example, wants equality for fairies at the expense of the Esperanto movement’s doctrine (the Fundamento), they are evil people whom good fairies must oppose at all costs. And if fairies don’t oppose Ido and support Esperanto, they are bad fairies.

That’s what the white, cisgender Western Esperantist Louis Beaucaire wanted to convey. That’s what the Nobel-prize-nominated Esperanto poet William Auld loved enough to include in the anthology Nova Esperanta Krestomatio during the 1980s, and what the Universal Esperanto Association continues to publish. You be the judge.

The Lord’s Prayer in multiple conlangs

Raye Chell Mahela

I don’t know why exactly this shows up as a sample translation for many languages (tradition from classic translation practices?), but it is. So let’s show the prayer in multiple conlangs, shall we?

See also, the Reddit thread in /r/Conlangs,
What is the Lord’s Prayer in your conlang?


English

Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name.
Your kingdom come,
your will be done,
on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread,
and forgive us our debts,
as we also have forgiven our debtors.
And lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil.

Esperanto

Patro nia, kiu estas en la ĉielo,
Via nomo estu sanktigita.
Venu Via regno,
plenumiĝu Via volo,
kiel en la ĉielo, tiel ankaŭ sur la tero.
Nian panon ĉiutagan donu al ni hodiaŭ.
Kaj pardonu al ni niajn ŝuldojn,
kiel ankaŭ ni pardonas al niaj ŝuldantoj.
Kaj ne konduku nin en tenton,
sed liberigu nin de la malbono.

Wikipedia, Comparison between Esperanto and Ido

Ido

Patro nia, qua esas en la cielo,
tua nomo santigesez;
tua regno advenez;
tua volo facesez
quale en la cielo, tale anke sur la tero.
Donez a ni cadie l’omnadiala pano,
e pardonez a ni nia ofensi,
quale anke ni pardonas a nia ofensanti,
e ne duktez ni aden la tento,
ma liberigez ni del malajo.

Wikipedia, Comparison between Esperanto and Ido

Interlingua

Patre nostre, qui es in le celos,
que tu nomine sia sanctificate;
que tu regno veni;
que tu voluntate sia facite
como in le celo, etiam super le terra.

Da nos hodie nostre pan quotidian,
e pardona a nos nostre debitas
como etiam nos los pardona a nostre debitores.
E non induce nos in tentation,
sed libera nos del mal.
Amen.

Wikipedia, Interlingua

Lojban

doi cevrirni .iu noi zvati le do cevzda do’u
fu’e .aicai .e’ecai lo do cmene ru’i censa
.i le do nobli turni be la ter. ku se cfari
.i loi do se djica ba snada mulno vi’e le cevzda .e .a’o la ter.
(.i do nobli turni vi’e le cevzda .ebazake .a’o la ter.)
(.i loi do se djica ba snada mulno vi’e le cevzda .e .a’o la ter.)
.i fu’e .e’o ko dunda ca le cabdei le ri nanba mi’a
.i ko fraxu mi loi ri zu’o palci
.ijo mi fraxu roda poi pacyzu’e xrani mi
.i ko lidne mi fa’anai loi pacyxlu
.i ko sepri’a mi loi palci
(.i .uicai ni’ike loi se turni .e loi vlipa .e loi mi’orselsi’a me le do romei)

Lojban.org

Láadan

Bi’ili,
Thul lenetha Na olimeha.
Wil he’eda zha Natha.
Wil nosha’ad sha Natha lenedi.
Wil sho’o yoth Natha,
Doniha zhe olimeha;
Wil ban Na bal lenethoth lenedi
I wil baneban Na lud lenethoth lenedi
Zhe mebane len luda’ lenethoth lenedi
I wil un ra Na lelneth erabal hedi
Izh wil bo’odan Na leneth rami’ilade
Bro’o sha, sha Natha
I hohathad, hohama Natha
I hohama, hohama Natha
Ril i aril i irilrili
Othe.

From A First Dictionary and Grammar of Láadan, Second Edition, by Suzette Haden Elgin

Toki Pona

Translation by Pijie/Jopi

mama pi mi mute o, sina lon sewi kon.
nimi sina li sewi.
ma sina o kama.
jan o pali e wile sina lon sewi kon en lon ma.
o pana e moku pi tenpo suno ni tawa mi mute.
o weka e pali ike mi. sama la mi weka e pali ike pi jan ante.
o lawa ala e mi tawa ike.
o lawa e mi tan ike.
tenpo ali la sina jo e ma e wawa e pona.
Amen.

Wikipedia, Toki Pona

Volapük

1930 de Jong Volapük

O Fat obas, kel binol in süls!
Nem olik pasalüdükonöd!
Regän ola kömonöd!
Vil olik jenonöd, äsä in sül, i su tal!
Givolös obes adelo bodi aldelik obsik!
E pardolös obes döbotis obsik,
äsä i obs pardobs utanes, kels edöbons kol obs.
E no blufodolös obis,
ab livükolös obis de bad!
(Ibä dutons lü ol regän, e nämäd e glor jü ün laidüp.)
So binosös!

Wikipedia, Volapük

Why learn Ido? – Vicente Thiên Nguyễn

Raye Chell Mahela

I started learning Ido because of these reasons:

  1. Simply because I am interested in conlangs.

  2. Ido is relatively easy. I’m not sure if it’s easier than Esperanto or not; but it wouldn’t cause much trouble even for monolinguals.

  3. In order to be able to discuss about Ido, I started learning it. I myself saw posts and comments of Esperantists with negative attitude towards Ido. I know this is not a general attitude of Esperantists, but I was upset then, honestly.

  4. The proposals and improvements actually work beautifully. I’m not judging whether Ido or Esperanto is better, though.

  5. Ido speakers are very nice, in my opinion.

  6. I like the flag of Ido. I think the flag of Esperanto is beautiful too; but here’s my personal story: Many of my friends hate Esperanto “at first glance” because of the flag. However, they have a very neutral attitude towards the flag of Ido. (they are not interested in conlangs, by the way.) Those are very personal reasons for learning Ido. But I would like to add one last reason:

  7. Learning Ido has brought me joy and excitement. It’s definitely worth my time and effort. I hope anyone will have the same experience! Warmest greetings to all those who are interested in learning Ido!

— Vicente Thiên Nguyễn

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